The NHS tops the chart again – for avoidable deaths and poor health outcomes

  • Paul Mawer

    My mother here,my uncle in the states she got treatment and died of a brain tumour,he had the same ,no treatment because of insurance rangles he’s not a static on the US system ,she is on the NHS system,quack quack analysis for ideological reasons,being paid by those with a vested interest in denying people there right to medical treatment,pure evil

  • Jingleballix

    The more you offer, the thinner you spread yourself.

    UK is incredibly lucky with its NHS.

    Broke my arm quite badly a couple of months ago…….absolutely wonderful treatment…….the only problem I encountered was waiting over 90mins for a ambulance. Not a big problem for me in the whole scheme of things, but the long wait was partly caused by two people who absolutely no need of an ambulance making spurious calls – just to get a ride to the hospital.

    Which takes us back to…………..the more you offer……….

    • theresa louise

      The NHS is fine until something goes wrong. Then you very quickly find out that you have no voice, and they have no accountability. I’m glad your experience was a good one, many others have found otherwise!

      • Jingleballix

        ……..let’s remember that the NHS is absolutely free.

        You sound like a spoilt kid.

        • Alexander Mitchell

          The NHS costs the nation plenty. It just doesn’t charge people directly.
          And “free” is often worth exactly what one pays for it. Or less.

          • Jingleballix

            No……’s completely free at point of delivery.

            Further, most tax-payers don’t use it either – certainly not regularly and/or often.

          • theresa louise

            Where do you get this information about most tax-payers not using the NHS?

          • Jingleballix

            Logic states that more people in the country do not utilise the NHS than do…….

            ………otherwise, we’d be a nation of sick and cripples, and nothing would get done.

        • theresa louise

          Not quite sure what gave you that impression but whatever. Are you seriously suggesting that, because the NHS is free (which it is not, but nevermind) that we should just put up with, for example, the outrageous treatment of patients in mid-staffs? People put on the Liverpool Care pathway (i.e. murdered) without any consultation with families? You’re okay with that?

          • Jingleballix

            Of course not……..but it is utterly incorrect to say that the NHS is a ‘disgrace’.

            Maybe you should rephrase your remark……..”the huge numbers of managers – along with targets and bizarre practices – that Labour placed in the NHS 2000-2010 are a complete and utter disgrace”.

    • gnostic

      It is very difficult to control demand for a service perceived to be free hence the continuous crisis in the NHS. Even modest payments for, say a GP consultation or use of an ambulance could have a significant affect. As always someone, usually with a vested interest or a point to make the government look nasty, will raise hypothetical cases to show someone somewhere could suffer.

      On a wider point as the population has grown through longevity and immigration, Tesco hasn’t run out of bread, there is no petrol shortage, clothes shops have plenty on offer but the NHS struggles, parents can’t get their children into their school of choice and there is a housing shortage. Anything the government has control over is hopelessly managed.

  • theresa louise

    The NHS is a national disgrace, not a national treasure. It’s too big and too unaccountable, yet the minute anyone tries to institute some badly-needed reforms, the trade union bully-boys take to the streets in protest. A reality check is badly needed here.

  • GreatScot

    Interesting to note that 3 of the top 5 overall ranked health services are in the bottom 4 for funding. (In the attached Guardian article.)