Woman dies from measles in America. Take a bow, anti-vaxxers

This article from Slate reports that a woman in Washington State has died from measles – the first death from the virus in the US for 12 years. Normally I assume that any stance taken by that uber-smug liberal website will be wrong – but this time they’re bang on.

Phil Plait writes that the victim probably contracted measles when she visited a health facility – someone later identified as having measles was there at the same time. The woman who died was apparently taking medications that damaged her immune system: she died of pneumonia caused by the measles infection.

Then some killer facts:

Vaccination rates in that area of Washington are lower than they should be …

[The death] comes right after a huge and awful backlash against a new California law [making it harder for parents to opt-out of vaccinating their children] by the anti-vax crowd, including actor Jim Carrey, who tweeted a series of foolish and blatantly incorrect statements about vaccines. He brought up the zombie ideas of mercury poisoning (a non-issue) and conspiratorial Big Pharma nonsense.

Let me be very, very clear: Anti-vax rhetoric like that makes people scared to get vaccinated. Rates drop, herd immunity drops, outbreaks occur, and people get sick. Some die. This is a direct, step-by-step chain.

Take a bow, anti-vaxxers. You are not directly responsible for this woman’s death, but your pseudoscientific scaremongering – much of it resembling the bogus claims of homeopathy – helps makes such deaths possible.

Incidentally, History Today has just published an article about the eradication of smallpox, the last stores of which will be destroyed this year. There were plenty of anti-vaxxers around in those days – as late as 1889, there were over 100 anti-vaccination societies in Britain. In an era when people knew next to nothing about medical science, perhaps we can make excuses for them. But not for Jim Carrey and the lunatics who support him today.


  • SP_Davies

    Whoa geezer bit strong there. I was born in 1972 so was given measles vax as a baby. I have never been given a mumps or rubella vax. Hope you’re not throwing around a general accusation that my lack of rubella vax has endangered pregnant women.

    The fact is if you were born in the 1970s you would have have minimal vax as an infant. Girls were given rubella s late as secondary school before puberty. We were all given BCG and Polio vax at this rough age.

    If some people want to believe that massive doses of vax covering several serious illnesses at once to a human barely months old may have some health issues that is their choice. This fetish for imposing penalties for non vax is immoral.

    • edgar

      agree w SP Davies. it’s the right of the individual to consider the risks. There’s no smoking gun proof between vaccine & autisms at present — which is not to say a link won’t be found next year. The US govt website shows that the US has paid over $3 billion in vaccine injuries to over 16,000 claimants

      http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data.html

      Vaccines are safe for most — not for ALL. I vaccinated my daughters 20+ years ago — not sure I’d do it today.

      Zero measles deaths in 12 years vs 1 in 68 chance of autism. To totally dismiss is a slap in the face to the thousands of moms who saw their kids developing normally and have an immediate post-vaccination reaction (fever, screaming, horrid diarrhea for weeks, etc). Big Pharma would have you believe all these moms are just crazy, hysterical bitches. I’ll trust the moms over Big Pharma

      • JB

        What risks? Have you not seen the recent paper? “Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism”. There’s no proof because there isn’t a link! Stop ignoring the evidence.

        0 mealses deaths? Pretty sure this counts as a measles death. 1 in 68 chance attributable to vaccines? Citation needed.

        Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. You might avoid vaccines such as the one for whooping cough, a serious disease that can have permanent consequences. You then go to the Dr for treatment who gives you antibiotics made by the exact same company as the vaccine you just avoided. Picking and choosing medical treaments under the guise of “b b but Big Pharma!” doesn’t make sense.

        • Mary Ann

          Autism is in the genes.

          • flying dragon

            I saw two children, from the same family, go from normal pre-MMR to autistic immediately afterwards. They would tend to make me think there is a genetic link as you say.
            If they can identify the risky genes then maybe I’d vaccinate, without it’s russian roulette. My first three children were vaccinated – before I saw these two children ruined – my fourth only for measles. But just try and get a measles-only vaccine… I found one eventually in France.
            There are risks I am sure but any enquiry is set up to ask the wrong questions on purpose. Misinformation is part and parcel of modern public health.

          • AutismDadd

            There may be a genetic susceptibility involved, but vaccine ingredients thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide and formaldehyde are all neurotoxic, genotoxic, mutogenic and are known to cause SPONTANEOUS GENE MUTATION. All also cause endocrine disruption. Think of that as you bring your baby to the pediatrician for a ” well baby visit “. And keep in mind children can receive numerous vaccines in one visit, compounding the potential adverse effects.

          • AutismDadd

            Nope. The most they can say is based on supposition and opinion. They have found many DO NOT inherit. The USA Vaccine Compensation Program has compensated for GENE MUTATION. Put that in your pipe and smoke it…

        • Ima Skeptic

          People in athird-world-country would probably be healthier than Americans overall. A PLoS study has documented that, given enough vaccine injections, everyone will develop an autoimmune disorder. The study found that not only is vaccination a possible or even probable cause of autoimmune disorders, but that chronic diseases are the inevitable result of vaccinations. Overall, autoimmune diseases are common, affecting more than 23.5 million Americans. They are a leading cause of death and disability. On PubMed.
          “Self-organized criticality theory of autoimmunity.” – (Dec 2009).
          “Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host’s immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system’s self-organized criticality.”
          PMID: 20046868
          PMCID: PMC2795160
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20046868
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2795160/
          When the body is overloaded with antigens following vaccination, instead of having the expected response of creating antibodies, those T-cells become overstimulated and, instead, create autoantibodies. The T-cells are then transformed into cytotoxic T lymphocytes, which, after maturation, cause injury to its own healthy cells and tissue. Autoimmunity is the system of immune responses of an organism against its own healthy cells and tissues. The whole vaccinated world is having autoimmune issues due to vaccines because they are afraid of the measles.

      • Mary Ann

        Measles jabs do not cause autism.

        • flying dragon

          But we give MMR not measles.

        • AutismDadd

          Wakefield wanted single jabs. The Pharmafia wanted greater profits, who won?

      • AutismDadd

        aluminum hydroxide says different

    • JB

      “Adults and children who are not immune because they missed one or all
      MMR doses when younger can have the MMR vaccine on the NHS at any age.”

      No excuses, off you go.

      Yes people can believe what they want but when it potentially has an effect on others and is based on no credible evidence whatsoever other than what google university told them about immunology then yes we are right to be anti-anti-vax.

      People are not persecuted for their choices, other people have the right to a reduced risk of disease.

      • Mary Ann

        Especially babies who are too young to be vaccinated.

        • Mourning Warbler

          Mothers who actually had mumps, rubella, measles… pass on temporary immunity through breast milk; those vaccinated have no such protection. Women who actually had mumps… have lower risk of ovarian cancer.

        • AutismDadd

          They do vaccinate babies big time and plan to increase it.

      • Ima Skeptic

        We know why vaccines are used. The health decisions of our medical and government institutions have degraded into business decisions that benefit only the health industry that now qualifies to be called a disease industry. They have learned that benefits come at both ends of the vaccination industry. Profits at the vaccination end and then product/treatment profits at the other end as the public becomes sick from getting these vaccinations.

    • Mary Ann

      My children had mumps when they were five and seven, off their stroke for a few days, Before MMR. I caught it when I was in my late 40s I was ill in bed for about 10 days and unwell for the rest of the month.

  • ChrisTavareIsMyIdol

    This articles assumes a) vaccines always work (they don’t) and b) vaccines confer lifelong immunity (they don’t).

    • Max C

      It assumes nothing of the sort. Google “herd immunity”.

      • ChrisTavareIsMyIdol

        * sigh * I don’t need to Google it.

        The woman had a damaged immune system, even if she had measles shots she could quite easily have died of flu, tb, measles or a dozen other things. And even with herd immunity and the entire population covered you’ve still got 10-30% of the population who are not immune (depending on the disease). You’ve also got people coming from other countries who aren’t immune, and they can come into contact with people with weak immune systems.

        Then you have to consider how long immunity lasts, for some vaccinations it’s a year for others it’s “for life” . For measles they say 20 years.

        Finally you have to consider people like myself who are old enough never to have the opportunity to have the MMR but are immune because we caught the diseases (on several occasions). No doubt you’d like to see us rounded up and jabbed just so you can tick your little box and feel safer, even though you are deluding yourself through the myth of herd immunity.

        No herd is ever immune until the disease is eradicated

        • JB

          Woman dies from complications of measles but does not die of measles?

          In other news, a woman died from complications of a car accident in which her major arteries were pierced however she did not die of the car accident.

          You caught the diseases on several occasions? And here I was thinking natural immunity was so much better and more effective than vaccines. These dieseases can have serious consquences.

          If you think herd immunity is a myth then you are the one who is deluded.

          • Brenda Asmus

            Herd immunity is what was a theory for naturally acquired immunity that is lifelong. It does not apply to vaccine immunity which wanes with time or people do not react and gain immunity from the vaccine.

          • AutismDadd

            Hilarious. If she had had measles as a child she would have had a better health outcome.

  • A Ortiz

    Aaaand…what exactly was the womans’ vaccine status?
    The article did NOT say if she was vaxxed or not – IRREGUARDLESS of her immunity status AND they she “PROBABLY contracted” it from someone in the same office that apparently had the virus. What was THAT persons vaccine status? Hhhmmmm…. and why would an “immunocompromised” person just be sitting around among “the infected” without precautions?

    Limited journalism at it’s best!

    ALL FACTS – not just hearsay- need to be known and taken into consideration. Until we KNOW, no side – vax or anti-vax, has the right to pass judgement on such crappy news reporting!

  • nrbrk

    People don’t die from measles alone. There has to be a co-factor, and here it is….

    CHEMOTHERAPY FAILS 97% OF THE TIME
    http://healthycures.org/chemotherapy-fails-97-time-doctors-recommend

  • Lynsie Rhoton

    a side effect of the measles vaccine is measles.

  • BustedHalo

    If you die from a benign viral infection, then you likely don’t have a strong immune system. A strong immune system requires wholesome foods, filtered water, sunshine, exercise, adequate rest, and for Pete’s sake, stop contaminating it with poisons. Be humans, respect the body, stop treating it like it’s worthless. Your body is your property to defend, nurture and protect. It does not belong to any industry to exploit at will for profits.

  • Richard Muccillo MDDCM

    hairy carrey –dumb–dumber and dumbest all rolled into one retarded asshole

  • Mourning Warbler

    Woman vaccinated for measles dies of measles….
    People getting flu shot getting GBS
    People getting DTP becoming totally disabled, requiring 24/7 care for life.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDhv-MzHlHo

  • Erik Nanstiel

    the vast majority of adults have not had booster shots for childhood illnesses… and since vaccine immunity lasts ABOUT 10 YEARS… most adults are effectively UNVACCINATED for everything. Except maybe the occasional flu shot, which is proven 10% effective.

    So herd immunity is a big myth.

    • AutismDadd

      Its a VACCINE myth. Real herd immunity likely exists among those who had the illness naturally and achieved lifelong immunity.

  • I called CDC myself about this death. They never confirmed it was a measles death. The WA state health department claimed it was measles a month after she died because they said they found the virus in her system. But apparently it was such a weak case of measels that she had no symptoms, yet such a serious case of measels that it killed her? And BTW she was vaccinated for measles. Also WA would not say what other conditions she had what meds she was on, or any other circumstances of the case.

    Oh… And the WA state health department was pushing a mandatory vaccine bill at the time.

    No one pushed this story in the US because everyone knew it was BS.

    • AutismDadd

      So she had the symptom-less vaccine induced measles that shed. Wonder how many she infected?

    • Brian

      The reports are all available from the Clallam County Department of Human Services.

      How kind of you to ridicule someone’s death. /sarc

      • AutismDadd

        briandead trying to twist the facts.

  • Also, this is some top shelf logic here…

    “Take a bow, anti-vaxxers. You are not directly responsible for this woman’s death, but your pseudoscientific scaremongering – much of it resembling the bogus claims of homeopathy – helps makes such deaths possible.”

    You didn’t have anything to do with this woman’s death, but I blame you anyway. Brilliant.

    • Brian

      A woman was vaccinated but had a immunosuppressive condition that caused her to both lose immunity and not have the ability to fight measles infection. She came in contact with an unimmunized person who became infected with measles.

      She died. Had the others been immunized, she wouldn’t have.

      Anti vaccination kills.

      • AutismDadd

        Brian omits certain facts so he can cry ANTIVAXXERS

  • AutismDadd

    The woman had a history of poor health and died of pneumonia. This story is a pharma scheme to inflame emotions and get sheeple back in line

    • sabelmouse

      also sad when pros don’t understand that childhood illnesses are more dangerous for adults.

      • AutismDadd

        Do they understand anything?

        • sabelmouse

          no. but this is soooo basic.

          • tomonthebay

            Apparently posting basic medical facts is not allowed on Amy Myers site so here it is again.
            The risks from the shingles vaccine are significantly less than the risks associated with shingles. I have seen people with post-herpetic neuralgia. It is significantly debilitating. A bout of shingles, even with no long-term sequela is frequently a severe illness. No thanks. That is the wonderful thing about science and medicine. I have a choice of taking the minor risk of the vaccine or the 30+ percent likelihood of coming down with shingles and all the unpleasantness and significant risk that entails. I choose the vaccine as it is the rational, reasonable, and medically appropriate decision.
            And Sabel, posting actual medical facts isn’t hubris.

          • AutismDadd

            What’s that tom…YOU have a CHOICE??? Do OTHERS have a CHOICE too?

          • AutismDadd

            anecdote

      • Taddle Fantasy

        The adult body has more white blood cells though, and all of them are trained to do something to prevent death, preventing either getting sick in the first place, or having symptoms.

        • sabelmouse

          nwmt

          • Taddle Fantasy

            What does that appreviation mean? Google doesn’t even have answers.

          • AutismDadd

            not worth my time

          • Taddle Fantasy

            So it’s your entire side. And if it wasn’t worth his time, then why bother commenting that at all, he could just ignore it, him commenting that means it is worth his time.

          • sabelmouse

            you and your inanities aren’t , not the subject.
            are you actually this dim?

          • Taddle Fantasy

            And did I say the subject, no, I was implying my comments that you see as inanities due to your confirmation bias. And you are acting as dim as Pluto

          • sabelmouse

            you flatter yourself.

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Trust me, if I did that, I wouldn’t be here trying to have facts shine through.

          • AutismDadd

            Can you see Pluto from Uranus?

          • Taddle Fantasy

            The probability is no, as it is much further than where your head is located in.

          • AutismDadd

            What are you implying?

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Your head is in (yo)uranus.

          • AutismDadd

            Rude and crude. I should flag

          • Taddle Fantasy

            What, feeling triggered you little snowflake, because that isn’t reason to flag, only reason to flag is if it directly threatens you.

          • AutismDadd

            OK Dr Phil thanks for running that into the ditch

          • Taddle Fantasy

            1 any human who has had experience dealing with people on the internet know that you can just ghost someone, and 2. at least I’m not Mr. wrong

          • AutismDadd

            3 WTF are you blubbering about?

          • Taddle Fantasy

            You understand that your dumb ass can’t add onto my list right, and I was saying that your dumb ass is acting like the basics of how to use the internet are taboo you know “don’t want to interact with don’t click” And I then said that at least I’m someone with scientific understanding and not being a dip shit who is always incorrect like you, you addle brained imbecile!

          • AutismDadd

            Are you sober?

          • Taddle Fantasy

            As sober as a person who keeps away from alcohol and unneeded drugs can be.

          • AutismDadd

            inhale farts under the blanket?

          • Taddle Fantasy

            I donn’t cover my nose or mouth, I basically make a blanket hoodie

          • AutismDadd

            That kills gray matter

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Really, making a hoodie out of your blanket and making sure you don’t cover your nose and mouth kills brain cells.

          • AutismDadd

            Quit lying

          • Taddle Fantasy

            If you want me to lie, then stop giving me reasons to tell the truth.

          • AutismDadd

            Provide evidence you have ever told the truth…

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Look in my profile, you will see somewhere around 900 examples

        • AutismDadd

          They aren’t trained. Its natural

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Actually, a lot of you people get sick as children, then grow up not showing symptoms because your cells know how to fight symptoms, and just because you don’t show symptoms doesn’t mean you are safe. And immunity is in no way natural.

          • AutismDadd

            You just won the DUH MOMENT of the week award.

          • Taddle Fantasy

            At least I haven’t won it for the millennium, because just saying insults and not adding anything is truly oafish.

          • AutismDadd

            You deny and deflect any attempts to school you.

          • Taddle Fantasy

            You are the one denying attempts to school you, all your sources are as credible as my stool is on how to fly, meanwhile you get supplied actual scientific proof, and you say “no, that’s wrong because I’m on the opposite side”.

          • AutismDadd

            I get confused because your facts are stool

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Actually quite the opposite, because you want to see your side as the “heroes” of this argument, even when your argument boils down to “NO I DON’T WANNA, HURTS A SMALL BIT”, while we have actual scientific evidence to back us up.

          • AutismDadd

            Wrong Oh clueless one…

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Really, because you people act like little children.

          • AutismDadd

            I do occasionally lower my standards in order to discuss science with paid and volunteer shills.

          • Taddle Fantasy

            You seem to have no standards, so lowering them seems to be impossible.

          • AutismDadd

            I’ll even stoop to yours when needed.

          • Taddle Fantasy

            Again, you seem to not have any standards, so lowering them to any level is impossible. And besides, you seem to live in topsy turvy land, so you are in reality saying step to my standards.

  • Iggy Semmelweis

    1:36 children have autism. Take a bow pro-vaxxers.

    • Brian

      Irrelevant. The unvaccinated develop autism at the same rate as the vaccinated so it’s obvious that vaccines don’t cause it.

      • Iggy Semmelweis

        Since both pro-vax and anti-vax knows and admits there aren’t any vaxxed vs never vaxxed studies, I will add this to your list of lies.

        • Brian

          No study huh?

          Well, you’re obviously lying.

          -Taylor et al. (1999) studied 498 children in the UK showing no difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on vaccination
          -Makela et al. (2001) studied 500,000 children in Finland showing no difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on vaccination
          -Madsen et al. (2002) studied 500,000 children in Denmark showing no difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on vaccination
          -Hviid et al. (2003) studied 450,000 children in Denmark showing no difference in autism based on thimerosal in vaccines
          -Verstraeten et al. (2003) studied 125,000 children in the U.S. showing no difference in autism and other disorders based on thimerosal in vaccines
          -Andrews et al. (2004) studied 100,000 children in the UK and found no difference in autism and several other disorders based on thimerosal in vaccines
          -DeStefano et al. (2004) studied 2,500 children in the U.S. showing no difference in autism rates based on vaccination
          -Smeeth et al. (2004) studied 5000 people in the UK and found no difference in autism and several other disorders based on vaccination
          -Honda et al. (2005) studied 300,000 people in Japan showing no difference in autism rates based on vaccination
          -Fombonne et al. (2006) studied 28,000 children in Canada showing no difference in autism rates and other developmental disorders based on vaccination
          -Richler et al. (2006) studied 300 people with autism in the U.S. and found no difference in regressive autism rates based on vaccination
          -Uchiyama et al. (2007) studied 900 people with autism in Japan and found no difference in regressive autism rates based on vaccination
          -Price et al. (2010) and DeStefano et al. (2013) studied 1000 children in the U.S. and found no difference in either classical or regressive autism rates, or other forms of ASD, based on thimerosal or other ingredients in vaccines
          -Kuwaik et al. (2014) studied autism rates among those who had older siblings with autism, showing no difference based on vaccination even with genetic predispositions to autism
          -Jain et al. (2015) replicated the study with 95,000 people and got the same result
          -Baxter et al. (2015) showed that, when using the same diagnosis criteria, the autism rate was the same 25 years ago as it is today
          -Gadad et al. (2015) showed no difference in autism rates in rhesus monkeys based on vaccination, and their brains were dissected just to make certain. Also, this study was funded by anti-vaccine groups
          -Taylor et al. (2014) performed a meta-analysis (better than double-blind studies!) with 1,250,000 people, showing no difference in autism rates based on vaccination
          -Zerbo et al. (2017) studied 200,000 in the USA showing no difference in autism rates based on influenza vaccination during the mothers’ pregnancy.

          Before you complain that many of these studies didn’t compare “fully” and “never” vaccinated, remember that “never vaccinated” is 100% correlated with the “unvaccinated for MMR” etc., so if there’s no association with one, there won’t be an association with the other. Stats 101.

          Time to find a new conspiracy.

          • Iggy Semmelweis

            Never vaccinated means never vaccinated. It’s called a control group. Science 101. Lol, if you can’t be truthful, please don’t bother commenting to me. I have no time for lying anti-science vaccine salesmen.

          • Iggy Semmelweis

            “Based on vaccination” = “vaccinated for everything but the 1 vaccine in the study” = tobacco science.

          • Iggy Semmelweis

            And don’t even get me started on how many subjects in the studies you listed. It’s no wonder you didn’t break it down and show how many were in each group. More junk science being passed off as proof.

          • Iggy Semmelweis

            You must hate the CDC. They spurned your fake autism rate study data. They admitted that there’s never been a vaxxed unvaxxed study. It’s like they have it out for you. Rotfl

      • sabelmouse

        lie.

      • AutismDadd

        Where’s your link to the science?

      • AutismDadd

        briandead calls vaccine injury and death irrelevant.

  • sabelmouse

    what an overwhelmingly sciencey headline!

  • AutismDadd

    A fine example of lying bu omission. This woman had a LONG history of illness and use of pharmaceuticals. The claim she died of measles is being used to fan the flames of Pharma controlled health care.

    • sabelmouse

      + she was a woman, not a girl.

      • AutismDadd

        Now she’s a victim.

        • sabelmouse

          somehow the term ” childhood illness” should tip people of, if they knew anything.

          • AutismDadd

            And they can’t fathom the benefits as opposed to WORSE cases later. Those who have them as children are home free as adults.